OP: My GF insists on a condom yet she is on the pill

Hey Ryan,

Unfortunately, I agree with everyone else. I don't know if your comment around abortion was just badly placed or if you lack information around abortions, but I would suggest doing some research on them. Besides the risks of infection, they are horrible procedures to go through emotionally and physically. And what happens to the baby inside be it large or small is still horrific!

And ultimately it is your girlfriends choice to use or not use a condom and what to do about pregnancy.

Also, the risks are always there of getting pregnant. I got pregnant on the pill for seven years methodically while using a condom. And believe me! It is hard being a single mother at 24 let alone in the teens!

Why is it that you are so keen to have sex without a condom?

Nurse Naddy

Posted: 27 Sep 04:23

I just find it much more enjoyable without a condom.

Basicly what I'm saying is that the chances of getting pregnant while on the pill are low enough to ignore, as far as I know, and if they're low enough then it's a bit paranoid to use a condom as well. It's possible that there could be a nuclear explosion and you could have survived with a radiation suit, but that doesn't make it logical to wear one during sex. Obviously this is a very extreme example but I hope you see my point.

Also we've both been tested and STD's are not a problem.

Ryan48

Posted: 27 Sep 04:23

Don't give me any of that "the chances are so low" bs. Nurse Naddy now makes 3 women that I know of just on this site who got pregnant while on the pill. Maybe it might not happen, but what if it does? Sounds like you're a lot more for the abortion option than your g/f. You do know that if she decides not to get an abortion, you can't do jack squat about it? So are you ready to be a daddy? Ready to fork over child support for the next 18 years?

Maybe you should try playing russian roulette. After all, you only have a 13% chance of blowing your brains out.

mike

Posted: 27 Sep 04:23

Why don't you just come out and tell the truth! YOU WANT TO FEEL YOUR RAW COCK IN HER! You are thinking about how YOU feel. You should feel lucky that you have a GF who's that attentive to the reality of sex. And that IF you want sex it WILL be safe! Hey, you could have her say NO to sex all togther!

Stop blowing smoke up our butts - be honest!

Rawbob

Posted: 27 Sep 04:23

You should consider yourself lucky. She is a very smart girl. Just because she's on the pill doesn't mean that you don't have to stop using a condom. Pill is safe, but not completely. It does not protect you from STD's either. Why do you have to even attempt to push her to go without a condom?
And I'm sorry, but do you even care a bit about her? IF youi did, you would honour her wishes. And what is it about abortion? Do you realise that it is a surgary on a girl. Meaning it does put her health and even her life at risk. What about her emotional health? HOw do you think she would feel if it did happen? DId you think about her?
She is being smart to have an extra protection, why can't you be as smart about that?
You find it more enjoyable without it? Fine, go masturbate. BUt also what about her? Do you want her constantly being worried and scared while you're having sex that she mgiht get pregnant. I am sure it wouldn't be as enjoyable to her.
Think about her for a moment, with your brains, not your dick.
And be greatful that you got a girl like her. Cause any guy who would try something like that on me again (my ex-fiance did that) his ass would have a very nice date with my boot.

LittleFury

Posted: 27 Sep 04:24

Okay Ryan, I'm going to have to be a little more graphic because you don't seem to be getting it.

I understand that you like the way it feels without a condom. I won't deny that it doesn't feel better most of the time, but there are other issues that you are just too willing to push aside.

First of all, where is your respect for her?? She is making a personal decision about her life and her health. Why is it that you can't respect that because sex won't feel "as good". Is it really that much better that you would disrespect her for it? That's being a little selfish!

And the abortion thing! I'm sorry, but I just can't get past that! Do you know what women go through with an abortion? (FOR PEOPLE NOT WANTING NASTY DETAILS PLEASE DON'T READ THE REST OF THIS)

If it is earlier, depending on the care in your area, they can take a pill for up 8-12 weeks pregnant. This pill induces labour to dispel the growing fetus. The labour is uncomfortable, granted no where near full term labour, but often worse than a regular period pain. The women are sent home to dispel the fetus. Often in this situation they do it alone and it is painful and scary for them. When it is time for the fetus to be dispelled, they often know and dispel the fetus into the toilet. The contractions are strong enough that the incredibly small but yet child like body is often ripped into pieces during the "birth". Identifiable body parts must then be flushed down the toilet. The woman must then go back to the clinic or her doctor for a follow up visit in which a cold metal spectroscope is inserted into her vagina and her cervix dilated and opened and she is explored for left over fragments of the fetus. The emotional pain often follows due to the uncertainty of her actions, going through the ordeal and seeing the products of conception, and most women doubt and continue to wonder. There are medical chances to worry about as well such as infection or preuterine damage that can affect later pregnancy chances.

Now, you say you love this girl, but you are willing to risk something as dumb as a condom and the risk of putting her through this? I just don't see how that is love...

Nurse Naddy

Posted: 27 Sep 04:24

Btw, what Naddy didn't add is. There were a few cases then women died from that procedure. Also, this is not the ionly one. How about one that is actually a real surgery, then they stick a metal tool in girls vagina and pretty much scrape out the fetus. Do you know, that it can cause serious damage to the girl and even make her incapable of carrying children later? Oh yeah, and if she does get pregnant and does have the abortion, who will be by her side? You? Don't really think so from the way you seem to care about her.
Now can you still claim that you love her?

LittleFury

Posted: 27 Sep 04:24

I am in love with her, but I never made that claim, lol.

Some of you are probably better informed than I am about the effectiveness of the pill, but from what I have heard it's nearly impossible to become pregnant. What I'm trying to establish is that preparing for something this unlikely (based on what I have heard and read), is not necessarily reasonable. Maybe it's more likely than I think... if I considered myself an expert than I woudln't be posting here.
You could die of heart failure during sex, but we're not preparing for that because even though it would be terrible there's almost no chance of it happening.

I'm not a jerk for wanting her to see something more clearly. If she believed she could implode from having sex and therefore didn't want to, would it be wrong for me to show her otherwise?

I admit I haven't thought that much about abortion, and from what people have said it does seem like it would be traumatic in a lot of cases. However IF it is as unlikely a scenario as I think it is, then there isn't a much need to be concerned about it.

Ryan48

Posted: 27 Sep 04:25

WEll from the girls on here, FIRST HAND, you can get preg on the pill, WANTING TO SEE SOMETHING MORE CLEAR? that you don't give a F*$K if she gets preg? and MIght choose for an abortion. Which is really dramatic, like you stated. Why do you even wanna CHANCE it? whats wrong with your head child.

Jamie

LadyOfLucidDepths

Posted: 27 Sep 04:25

Ryan, considering you haven't had much experience, i suggest you look into some more information regarding sex and its consequences, and look up information regarding women, also, and learn to understand that it's not just sex for us, we have many emotional attachments.

I think you also need to research more about abotion and pregnacy within itself. And being young, you MUST LEARN to understand how women function! We are NOT men, we will never be close to it. Our sexual organs are extremely different. Don't you feel sorry enough for her that she has to have a period? That she may suffer severe pain, just through a period? Trust me when i say that pregnancy and abortions are MUCH worse, as are many STI's.

A child is A LOT of care and money......do you think you have the time to take care of a child should your gf not wish to abort? Or would you decide to run? Going by your previous post, you were only very strongly suggesting abortion. They are the choices YOU would make, but not necessarily your girlfriend's. NEVER leave a woman alone during her pregnant time with your baby, it'd just be as much yours as it is hers and that really is one of the worst things you could ever do to a woman.

If you loved your girlfriend as much as you say you do, you would have no hesitations what so ever in respecting her choices and decisions. That's why you love her after all, isn't it? And if you can't be sexually compatible, well, she just might not be the girl for you.

Bewitching

Posted: 27 Sep 04:25

Ryan,
Sorry to say, but I agree with everyone else here. My boyfriend and I went through the same thing. I am on the pill and we decided not to use condoms....Then after a big scare....He and I BOTH decided it wasn't worth the risk. You say that preparing for something so unlikely is unneccesary. The problem, Ryan, is that isn't THAT unlikely. It's NOT "nearly impossible." I know a close friend who took the pill methodically so she decided not to use condoms. She got pregnant at 20. It CAN happen to you...don't be stupid in thinking that it can't. Yes, it's more unlikely than likely...BUT that doesn't mean its something you should risk.

I KNOW it feels better without...even as woman I understand that. But that feeling IS NOT worth the risk. Trust me. Don't be stupid.

BabyDi

Posted: 27 Sep 04:25

I'll also add that if somehow she did become pregnant, I would be open to an abortion as long as it was fairly early in the development of the fetus. I believe it would be worth the very small risk, though of course I wouldn't feel extremely good about doing it if it happened.

She, on the other hand, says that she's "kinda against it" in most cases.

Ryan48

Posted: 27 Sep 04:26