OP: How effective are just condoms with pulling out?

The best thing would be infact for her to get on the pill. Do you have Planned Parenthood around you? Any girl can go there and get birth control (at a low cost) without parent consent I believe. Unless its above 13 or something. Condoms are good (better than nothing) IF used 100% correctly. Which most of the time the effective rate is much lower when you take into consideration human error. I think the 97% effective rate is with perfect use each time.

The pill on the other hand is 99.9% effective with perfect use...meaning taking it everyday!!! That is my suggestion. And you can still use condoms with the pill if you still feel unsafe. Thats what I do. I figure 2 methods are better than 1. I hate relying on something I take orally to hope its working properly. So I like to use condoms as well haha.

SugarAddict

Posted: 28 Sep 21:52

She needs to take the pills EVERY day and YOU need to wear the condom EVERY TIME YOU HAVE SEX. People forget to take pills, it's natural. It's not a good excuse though if you all have a baby. A pill does no good if she forgets.

Also you can find some anti-sperm stuff to put in her. Your condom should already have it on it if you are buying decent condoms.

Kbests2003

Posted: 28 Sep 21:52

The only thing about spermicide or spermicidal condoms is that it can be very irritating to some girls. And it is advised to only use it ONCE per day. Or no more than once per day or something.

SugarAddict

Posted: 28 Sep 21:52

Thanks, this is really helpful. The prescription is what worries me. I feel rather awkward getting mine and her parents involved into this. Would it be a good idea? Does insurance cover the cost of the pill and the examination?

exl

Posted: 28 Sep 21:52

Read the directions on spermicides. They have to be used EVERYTIME sexual intercourse is going to be done. If it's 5 times a day--use it 5 times a day. There is no such thing as ONCE a day unless you are having sex once and it's about 15 minutes prior.

sera300

Posted: 28 Sep 21:53

"Does insurance cover the cost of the pill and the examination?"

better yet see if there is planned parenthood in your area(they won't talk to parents either). It will be cheaper. If it comes down to money, then the pill will save you tons if it means no baby. Invest =]

Skip the parents IMO... just make sure you know wtf you are doing.

Kbests2003

Posted: 28 Sep 21:53

Insurance companies will only cover the cost of BCP's if they are medically necessary. Meaning the doc prescribed them for a medical condition such as an ovarian cyst or menstrual irregularities. Insurance should pay for a Gyn exam but it's not 100% based on the insurance. Many have deductibles which have to be met first.

Planned Parenthood works, you do not parental consent, and the cost is based on what one can or cannot afford. There are also low cost Gyn clinics.

sera300

Posted: 28 Sep 21:53

> Read the directions on spermicides. They have to be used EVERYTIME sexual intercourse is going to be done. If it's 5 times a day--use it 5 times a day. There is no such thing as ONCE a day unless you are having sex once and it's about 15 minutes prior.

Well I didn't make it up lol. I remember reading it either on the box or in the pamplet that comes with condoms with spermicide. I recall it saying you can only use this type of condom once per day due to the Nonoxynol-9. And if you have sex more than that, to use a non-spermicide one I guess. This was years ago, but if I can find it again, I will quote it directly.
I personally never chose to use them though because I have allergic/sensitive issues as it is...so I didn't want to put Nonoxynol-9 inside of me and cause more problems or irritation. But I do remember reading something about it. I could be wrong...but I don't know why I would just make that up :confused:

SugarAddict

Posted: 28 Sep 21:54

There is a big difference between spermicides and condoms with spermicides. Many people who are unsure of proper BC options read these posts and providing clear information for them is imperative. Spermicide alone has to be reapplied during every act. As far as using condoms with a spermicide, I am certain many use them more then once a day. And a condom with spermicide is only to be used once (as with any other condom) and a new one applied before engaging in intercourse. Perhaps if one is allergic, the manufacturer recommends only using once prior to trying another brand if found to be allergic? Regardless, getting the right info out there was the only reason I corrected the use of spermicides and the need to reapply every time.

On a side note, according to a recent US study one out of three pregnancies in the US are deemed unplanned and unwanted (unwanted pregnancy was defined as either carrying to term or elective termination of the pregnancy). The highest age groups identified as risk fall on those in their 20's and 30's, no longer is the highest rate among teens. A campaign to educate is being launched to target these age groups to further reduce the one out of three rate. This demonstrates that proper education must be reaching the teenage population and really supports this sites validity. Now hopefully this site begins to capture and educate those in their 20's and 30's.

sera300

Posted: 28 Sep 21:54

The warnings on Non-9 are a result of investigation into the affect on spread of HIV. What was discovered was that Non-9 can cause some degeneration of the skin. It is a detergent similar to what you use to do your dishes. The negative effects are much worse for anal sex than for vaginal sex. Non-9 (and there are two toehr generally available spermicides) has been in use for 50 years. Many of us have spent entire weekend "refilling." Prostitutes in the diaphragm days spent twelve hours a day replenishing and going again.

The risks of Non-9 with vaginal sex (assuming you are not allergic) are much lower than the risks of not using spermicide. If you feel as though you are reacting, read ingredients on various spermicidal cream, jellies, foams, etc, and avoid Non-9. For the vast majority of women, Non-9 represents a very, very low risk. Protect yourself.

The vagina is 40 cells thick and the "erosion" will be slight. For anal sex, it is better to use other lubricants without spermicide.

Brandye

Posted: 28 Sep 21:54