OP: Intimacy with significant disabilities...

2 medical conditions run in my family, and I was lucky enough to be affected by both. The Ulcerative Colitis I had for 27 years was "cured" 7 years ago by having an Ileostomy (colon removed, rear-end closed up, wear "pouch" on abdomen to "catch" stuff), and I was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis, about 14 years ago (I'm still walking, but balance and coordination are being affected more severely now; Interestingly, my libido is strong, and erection-wise, my trouble is more age, than MS related).

I use a product that offers a semi-solution to the ostomy pouch hanging there, but nothing really eliminates it as an issue (psych, anyway).

I'm writing because - especially with the MS progressing - intimacy is more of a challenge. We're having trouble finding positions that are comfortable for me and that I can manage through to orgasm (60+ YO doesn't cum so fast anymore :) ). Because of the balance and coordination stuff, I'm actually getting kind of clumsy: I'm able to shift around on the bed, but it takes a lot of maneuvering. Also, Her-on-top positions aren't so great for her.

Any ides from personal experience would be great, but by all means any thoughts and suggestions would be worth it!

Whatcha got?

Thanks!

MS-Osto

Posted: 03 Oct 07:09

Replies:

I'm sorry to hear you're affected by two such nasty conditions. I'm not personally familiar with MS, so I can only guess what could(not) work for you. But I am familiar with a pouch, as my former partner had one.

My experience is that the bag on his belly could actually handle quite a lot :) During the years I have only once accidentally knocked it off. I could lie on top with my full bodyweight on him. Which may be a bit scary at first. But the bag could handle a lot of weight and friction.

How comfortable are you with your pouch? And how comfortable is your partner with it? How do either of you respond to mishaps?

I know it's been 7 years, but I'm not simply going to assume you have both adjusted to this change. Since people all handle this differently. Though I think acceptance and being relaxed about it should be the goal. At times I used to explicitly show my partner that I wasn't afraid or disgusted by it; I kissed his scars on his belly up to the rims of his pouch. Other than that, I often lost sight of how he had it. Once upon a time he told me he could never really be naked since he'd always be wearing something. I went by every bodypart and was confused cause he seemed as naked as one could ever be to me. I simply hadn't noticed he was talking about the pouch and when he mentioned it, felt sorry that I had forgotten. Instead he smiled a little teary-eyed that to me he was simply complete.

Are you comfortable with your appearance? If not, you could try a pouch-bag or a pouch-belt. These belts are made of soft cotton, that snuggly fit around your waist and cover your pouch. The bags only cover the plastic pouch itself. I hope they are available in your part of the world as well. My partner only used the bags once upon a time to feel more comfortable. I know people who stick with them and even buy beautifully decorated versions :)

I know some positions are better than others. Particularly when gravity starts to "pull" on it, which felt rather uncomfortable to him. Have you tried smaller bags?

Why are on-top positions "not so great" for your partner? I know for me the rim of the pouch used to leave imprints on my skin. We learned to adjust the rim, so that the thicker part was directed to his side. I know there are several brands of materials, so this may not be applicable for you. But it may be worth looking into :)

If I may be so blunt to answer DD2's questions; no these kinds of pouches can't be de-attached for a while. The smaller intestine is almost constantly producing very liquid waste. There are several systems available. Either it's a one-part-system with adhesive on a plastic bag that sticks on the skin surrounding the stoma. Or it's a two-part system with adhesive on a ring that goes onto the skin surrounding the stoma and a click or stick system to attach the plastic bag to it (you can exchange the bag without having to exchange the adhesive on your skin, which can be highly beneficial).

NB: if someone has a pouch connected to part of the colon instead of the smaller intestine, there could be possibilities of flushing the waste out of the colon and temporarily sealing the stoma off.

RedRoses

Posted: 03 Oct 07:09


First, Doc's question already answered by RedRoses: It is what it is and the bag cannot be done away with for even short periods without risking a mess.

MS-Ost: Two things come to mind: some of the sitting positions may work. As you have discovered. this will all be trial and error. Using a variety of chairs that allow your partner freedom of position for her legs, try different reclining angles, different seat padding and simply try. As a variation on the side positions, try having her lie flat on her back. Then at right angles to her body, lie on your left side with her legs draped over you. This gives each of you digital access to all critical parts of yourself and the other. I "understand" that the woman using a fairly powerful vibrator in this position gives some real benefit to both partners. Imagine being contained by a pulsating vagina!

The wimpy battery powered vibes do not do much. The old reliable Hitachi Magic wand is still available even though it was the first vibe sold for similar purpose. If it is too powerful on the low setting, use a folded towel and either of you can operate the thing.

MS-Osto

Posted: 03 Oct 07:10


First, Doc's question already answered by RedRoses: It is what it is and the bag cannot be done away with for even short periods without risking a mess.

MS-Ost: Two things come to mind: some of the sitting positions may work. As you have discovered. this will all be trial and error. Using a variety of chairs that allow your partner freedom of position for her legs, try different reclining angles, different seat padding and simply try. As a variation on the side positions, try having her lie flat on her back. Then at right angles to her body, lie on your left side with her legs draped over you. This gives each of you digital access to all critical parts of yourself and the other. I "understand" that the woman using a fairly powerful vibrator in this position gives some real benefit to both partners. Imagine being contained by a pulsating vagina!

The wimpy battery powered vibes do not do much. The old reliable Hitachi Magic wand is still available even though it was the first vibe sold for similar purpose. If it is too powerful on the low setting, use a folded towel and either of you can operate the thing.

Brandye

Posted: 03 Oct 07:10





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